Peter Maher, member of the ISGE Senate, and I attended the 4th Red House Summit in Shanghai June 2nd to 4th . We met with Prof Hua and Xiaofang Yi and discussed the proposal to hold a meeting with ISGE in 2018.In 2016 they involved AAGL and APAGE and would like to include ISGE next year with the other groups. They wanted to include all groups together. We also proposed setting up a special link with The Red House and they seemed very keen. We also had the two-hospital tour as did Paya earlier this year. ISGE does accept the offer to take part in the meeting scheduled around June 2018.